Hi Andrew,

I use curves to tune the colour tone and contrast. It's far better work flow to tune this in LR than it is to open them all in photoshop. Canon manages to offer this with DPP, so why not LR?

>I use curves to tune the colour tone and contrast.

I kind of guessed that. The question is, what so called tuning can't you do using the tools designed for this in LR?

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Originally posted by arodney:
[qb] >I use curves to tune the colour tone and contrast.

I kind of guessed that. The question is, what so called tuning can't you do using the tools designed for this in LR? [/qb]

Curves is alot more direct and less fiddly than a bunch of sliders IMO. i can do everything in one panel with curves. Considering photographers have always related to curves it seems odd to change the approach. Split toning function is OKish but limited and I just can't get the same look I need that i can do in seconds with curves. I can in DPP though. I personally think curves has always been one of the best and most useable feature of photoshop.

>Curves is alot more direct and less fiddly than a bunch of sliders IMO

The question is simple. Are you unable to produce the desired rendering qualities using the tools provided OR you have a bias towards sliders? Big diff.

>Considering photographers have always related to curves it seems odd to change the approach.

Always doesn't wash (and I'd submit, as a Photoshop 1.0 user, and photographer at the time, the statement isn't true, many didn't have a clue back then how to use Curves).

> personally think curves has always been one of the best and most useable feature of photoshop.

LR isn't Photoshop or remotely close to it. Nor should it be.

Curves, LR and bias towards Photoshop:

http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1779

No. I can't get the result I want with the limited Split Toning capabilites.
No. I don't like lots of sliders when I can do the same thing in one curves panel.
Yes. I believe curves is one of the best things about PS. Albiet as a Photoshop 3 starter. Most photographers I know understand and relate to curves very well.
LR would be further enhanced, in my opinion, if curves was available.

>No. I can't get the result I want with the limited Split Toning capabilites.


HSL, HSL....

From Scott Kelly blog:

"Anyone remember Color Studio, X-Res, or Live Picture?"

I had Live Picture. I'm sure glad those days are over. Digital photography is just moving out of it's infancy. Can't wait to see what's next!

Scotti

"From Scott Kelly blog:"Anyone remember Color Studio, X-Res, or Live Picture?""

I had all three of those babies--Color Studio because it was bundled along with Photoshop (!) and my first scanner (a LaCie SilverScanner recommended in some magazine review by Bruce Fraser), and X-Res because it was part of some Macromedia software bundle I owned (I was using Freehand and Fontographer). I actually bought Live Picture and made an effort to use it.

But it was Photoshop that won my heart early and has kept it.

Lightroom 2 has been working out well--I bought the upgrade as soon as it was available for download. It's been totally stable on my Mac Pro, and I've been enjoying checking the "16-bit" button while printing from it.

Can LR's adjustments still only be stored locally?
It'd be great if all the computers on a network could access the same updated image files.

Live Picture was a necessity for me. I was retouching large drum scans and the computers at that time were soooo slow. With LP, I could work quickly on low res images and have LP transfer the instructions to the hi res images at night. That's the only way I could get any sleep!

Scotti

"Not impressed that there is no capture capability."

I hear ya. If Lightroom 2 had that capability, it would seal the deal for me.......if it worked well.

Scotti

" With LP, I could work quickly on low res images and have LP transfer the instructions to the hi res images at night. "

There's still nothing current AFAIK that does that, although with current computers' speeds, it's not very necessary any more--that is, until digital cameras with gazillion gigapixels come out.

>" With LP, I could work quickly on low res images and have LP transfer the instructions to the hi res images at night. "

That's essentially what LR/ACR and metadata, instruction based products do today. Its JIT (Just In Time) processing, when you ask to render pixels from the Raw using the instructions built in the product.

Live Picture was cool to use, and I still have a copy that runs in Classic on one of my older systems. The next closest was Alias Studio Paint, though quite expensive; currently available in an updated form through AutoDesk, but still way expensive. The idea of the build file was good, though the company that bought out the company that made Live Picture only wanted their lower specification consumer oriented software, so Live Picture was essentially killed off.