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Originally posted by craig waller:
[qb] witzkestudio,
Sorry for the misunderstanding in my Post.. i had sent John an email last week about his printer and asked him for opinions and misc... thats what my last post was referring to..
i will give it a look both ways ?? and make a judgement that way.. Thanks for your input...

craig [/qb]

Neither of the quoted websites'info will do you any good if somewhere in your computer settings are wrong. For example, with my Epson 1200 ( ) ), there is no way I can set up the system to get me a print that was what I saw on my computer, if I use Epson's driver and CS2, no matter which program I leave to do the profiling. But if I use the windows driver, colors and contrast are correct. CS2 seems to have some issues with Epson printers, but with the latest printers, downloading and installing the latest driver seems to fix that.

Thanks Bart,

i got this 2400 last night and amongst 10 other things i tried to set it up... i ran the install cd and thought i had it working but when i try to select it in my "Printer Utility" i can see it but it won't let me add it .. ??? I am shooting today and will try and work on it later, but if anyone has an idea what i did or need to do again i would appreciate it..

Thanks
craig

Craig,

In the printer set up utility, you have to go to More Printers/Epson USB.

O,
THANKS... thats what i needed to do..
GREATLY Appreciated !!

craig

You're welcome.

Like Craig, I received my Epson R2400 last week. After fiddling with, running Nozzle check & removing initial banding, I'm still having major problems. Epson tech suport was very nice and they think the problem is with Photoshop CS. So can anyone help me.
When I go to print. My setting are Glossy Photo, Color Management, Source space (Document:sRGB), Print space(Relative Colorimatic),Black Point Compensation(Yes), Best Photo, ICM(no adjustment) Color density 0%. BUT in my print preview ALL REDS ARE COMING OUT PINK! Epson thinks it is the problem with Photoshop CS. (Yes, ran sample printing thru' Paint program and colors are accurate,) only when I go thru' CS than preview & print is low on REDS, rest seems OK. I also took from D2x pics thru' Nikon Capture 4.4 and printed them out & avoided Photoshop CS and pictures/colors are accurate. I even did samething thru' my old Epson printer same problem. So it IS with Photoshop CS!!! What am I missing?? I just ordered MonacoEZcolor & OptixXR by nextday FedEx. I have a bad deadline for Gallery prints (from H1 & not D2x), so H..E..L..P !!

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Originally posted by Shawn k:
[qb] My setting are Glossy Photo, Color Management, Source space (Document:sRGB), Print space(Relative Colorimatic),Black Point Compensation(Yes)...[/qb]

Hey, Shawn. I'm not sure if you skipped something while typing the above, but it looks like you're saying the source space is sRGB and your print space is Relative Colorimetric. I'm not sure if that's what you really meant, though, because Relative Colorimetric is not a print space. It's a Rendering Intent. Your print space should be an ICC profile for your printer/paper.

Once you get the Monaco/Optix stuff, you'll be able to make your own printer/paper profiles. In the meantime, see if the paper manufacturer has a profile specific to the R2400 on their website.

As a side note: Adobe RGB is a larger gamut than sRGB, so if you don't have to convert your images to sRGB for some reason, I would recommend keeping them in Adobe RGB.

Thanks David, In "Print" dialog box, under show me more options, > Color Management > Source Space > Document > Document sRGB IEC61966-2.1 (and other option I did NOT go for was Proof Setup: Web coated SWOP).
under 2nd "Color Management option" > Print space > Profile>prem. Glossy. And second choice under "Print Space" is "Intent">"Relative Colorimetric"-(1 of 4 options) and I did NOT go for Perceptual, Saturation OR absolute Colorimetric (the other 3 options) So I guess we both are correct, They list Intent under Print Space & Relative Colorimetric is 1 Of 4 choices in Intent. I am using Epson Premium Glossy and I will try to remember @ not converting to sRGB. Thanks for your quick response. I can't wait till the technology makes everything easier.

David, One more thing. If the print/colors thru' Nikon Capture/D2x is coming at acceptable level AND Epson sample test bypassing CS is also OK, but anything going thru' CS is off, that leads me to believe CS setting is off. Hence I am not really sure when I get my Monaco/Optix tomorrow, whether the calibration of monitor & printer will help me at all??!! So is there anything I need to check in CS/print command for adjustments??

Shawn,

You didn't mention whether you are using Epson paper or not. If you are:

Print Preview Dialog Box
Color Handling - Let Photoshop Determine Colors
Printer Profile - Find the profile for the paper you are using and enter it here.
Rendering Intent - Relative Colorimetric w/Black Point Compensation on

Epson Driver
Print Settings - Enter same media type you entered under Printer Profile in Print Preview Dialog Box.
Color Management - No Color Adjustment.

Thanks O,
Everything is hunky dory!! I was printing from my laptop sometime back (to older Epson)and I transfered the same settings to main computer and is running and printing perfectly from 2400.
Main changes were Edit>Color settings>North American General purpose defaults.
File>Print w/preview>color management>(a) Source space>document. (b)print space>profile>same as document.
And that's all folks... perfect preview/print till some of you guys teach me better. Thanks David & O!

Glad you got it going. Think about using something other than sRGB as your embedded profile, as David recommended, either Adobe RGB or ProPhoto RGB.

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Originally posted by Shawn k:
[qb] (b)print space>profile>same as document.[/qb]

Glad you're getting some good prints now, Shawn. But you should know this:

It's important that your print space not be the same as document if you want the best print quality possible. Your print space should be the ICC profile for your printer/paper combination. Your Monaco/Optix stuff will walk you through step-by-step in creating custom profiles. It can be a little confusing at first, but when you finally understand it all the payoff -- beautiful prints that look almost exactly like what you see on screen -- is worth it.

The premium profiles link I posted above should be all you need for Epson paper. Try those first, before killing yourself creating custom paper profiles. And yes, I totally concur with David about the print space being different than the working space!

Well i finally got to spend a day working on this r2400. I must say that i was a little upside down and throwing out some UGLY prints. but i found the right combination,.. and WOW !! this printer gives me about 98% accuracy from what i am seeing on my monitor..
Thanks Guys !!

cw