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So, i purchased an Epson 2400.. I have NEVER had any luck with printers and setting them up to print "my color vision" of my edited photo.. is there 2nd party programs, this or that, etc etc i should use to set this baby up and run properly ?? i know thats a BROAD question but i never have problems of other peoples equipment (printers) just mine ...

if it helps this is my equipment:
Canon 10d & 1DS MK2
G5 dual 2.3
23" cinema display
Photoshop CS2

HAPPY NEW YEAR and a BETTER '06 !!
and THANKS,
craig
 
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I change the printers color space to adobe rgb ( same as the file ICC ) and all is good.
 
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yikes Eeker

Adobe RGB is a working space, not an output space!
 
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Thanks Guys that is a HUGE help..

craig
 
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well..... epson printers default to an "epson standard" in the "color management" drop down... which looks terrible!.

Changing that drop down to " adobe rgb" makes the prints look like they do on my monitor.... which is the workflow I like.
 
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You shouldn't be letting Epson do any colour management, at all. Let Photoshop do it and do as John stated earlier , read those materials. You might have gotten lucky for the time being but what happens when you add another variable? You'll be coming back to this post to find those links.
 
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I've been using the Print Workflow 2 style since my Epson 1200 or 1270? Anywho, it works like a charm with a good printer profile. And those premium profiles are really good. To be sure, print out Andrew's Printer Test File, which is my benchmark file for judging printer quality. I was stunned by the K3 ink set when I saw the first print outta my 2400, WOW!
 
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The 2400 is an amazing printer! The ink costs are pretty amazing also! If you don't print a lot, you can't go wrong. If you do print a lot, a 4800 would pay for itself in no time.

Scotti

P.S. I wish I had one to play with! Frowner
 
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well i should be getting it tomorrow... thats what the UPS tracker says.. SOOO
Thanks John for your email, thats what made my FINAL decision.. Most of what you guys are talking about is very Russian to me. I have never set a system up, BUT with these GREAT links i can get through it..

THANKS !!

craig
 
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well... whatever floats your boat... but I like to keep my profiles consistant between my imput and output.

They are called profiles for a reason.

Craig... it's the best printer out there at it's arch b size! enjoy!
 
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witzkestudio,

Try doing a comparison by printing some of the same images with Print workflow 2. There should be quite a difference.
 
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witzkestudio,
Sorry for the misunderstanding in my Post.. i had sent John an email last week about his printer and asked him for opinions and misc... thats what my last post was referring to..
i will give it a look both ways ?? and make a judgement that way.. Thanks for your input...

craig
 
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[qb] I like to keep my profiles consistant between my imput and output.

They are called profiles for a reason.
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Hi, Witzkestudio. I'm glad to hear this works for you, but unless I misunderstand what you're doing, I think you're probably not getting the best images you potentially could be.

The reason it's important to not use the same profiles for all your devices is that they aren't all capable of producing the same range of colors. When you have a specific profile for each device, the computer can have the following conversation with itself:

"Gee, this is really a gorgeous blue sky in this photo. It's a good thing the monitor is able to show off what a nice sky the photographer captured. It's too bad the printer isn't capable of printing a blue quite this rich and lovely, though. I guess I could tell it to print the photo without any further instructions, but it just wouldn't look right because the printer can't print a blue that's as amazing as the monitor can display. But thankfully, the photographer has given me a profile of what his printer can and can't do, so instead of just passing along the instruction to print the photo as-is, I'm going to do some calculations and give the printer slightly different instructions, based on what I know it's capable of, that will come a lot closer to the on-screen image than if I just pass the photo along as-is."

By having device-specific profiles, the computer can calculate what the best alterations to the image are en route to the printer -- alterations that don't make the final output look less like what you see on-screen, but more like what you see on-screen.

If you've figured out a workflow that produces nice images using one profile for all devices, that's great. But knowing how color profiling works, I'm inclined to think you've gotten lucky, and that your output would look even better (perhaps with smoother gradations, better detail in highlights and shadows, etc) with proper profiling.
 
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"Gee, this is really a gorgeous blue sky in this photo...
David, do you hear voices? Wink

just kidding!
 
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